Comments on: Rev. Ann Holmes Redding: Christian and Muslim http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/ Keeping You Informed with the Latest Stuff for Pastors Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:22:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: J http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-25564 J Tue, 27 May 2008 18:33:51 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-25564 David, You are antichrist by John's definition. (see 2 John 1) Takis, Richee, and Phillip: Keep the faith - God's faith - a gift to you upon spiritual resurrection into the true body of Christ on earth. Men and women, such as David and Ann and Livy cannot understand a thing you write to them, They have not been born again. They are dead in their sins and trespasses. They follow their own hearts and judge by their own carnal experiences. Superstition is the closest they will ever get to spirituality so long as they remain dead. Pray that God changes their hearts. (See Deuteronomy 4:29) David,

You are antichrist by John’s definition. (see 2 John 1)

Takis, Richee, and Phillip: Keep the faith - God’s faith - a gift to you upon spiritual resurrection into the true body of Christ on earth. Men and women, such as David and Ann and Livy cannot understand a thing you write to them, They have not been born again. They are dead in their sins and trespasses. They follow their own hearts and judge by their own carnal experiences. Superstition is the closest they will ever get to spirituality so long as they remain dead. Pray that God changes their hearts. (See Deuteronomy 4:29)

]]> By: David http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-23197 David Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:02:45 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-23197 Takis, Like you I do enjoy a good debate and I am not offended by your words and spirit. I was a Christian believer for over 20 years. I was a minister and have witnessed to hundreds of people. As one grows and learns one has a responsibility to exercise that experience and knowledge. The fact is that all religions have an origin. If you know the actual history of Christianity one would understand that it was not a holy endeavor. War, politics, manipulation and the quest for power are a part of the history as well as the needs to form a beneficial society and deal with human needs (spiritual and physical). There have been systems of worship since the beginning of mankind. They were useful tools in creating order in societies. The best practices of pre-Christian religions have been passed on throughout the years and today Christianity is a mix of several religions and practices. Not unlike other religions. These are just the facts as we know them and they are noy to be ignored because of our religious beliefs. God gave us brains and the power to think and reason. It is important that we maximize that gift. I am not hear to denounce religion or Christianity. I would like to help bring it out of the dark ages of superstition and useless dogma. God also gave us love, faith, virtue and patience. In that spirit I thank you for your comments and your faith. Takis,
Like you I do enjoy a good debate and I am not offended by your words and spirit. I was a Christian believer for over 20 years. I was a minister and have witnessed to hundreds of people. As one grows and learns one has a responsibility to exercise that experience and knowledge. The fact is that all religions have an origin. If you know the actual history of Christianity one would understand that it was not a holy endeavor. War, politics, manipulation and the quest for power are a part of the history as well as the needs to form a beneficial society and deal with human needs (spiritual and physical). There have been systems of worship since the beginning of mankind. They were useful tools in creating order in societies. The best practices of pre-Christian religions have been passed on throughout the years and today Christianity is a mix of several religions and practices. Not unlike other religions.
These are just the facts as we know them and they are noy to be ignored because of our religious beliefs. God gave us brains and the power to think and reason. It is important that we maximize that gift. I am not hear to denounce religion or Christianity. I would like to help bring it out of the dark ages of superstition and useless dogma. God also gave us love, faith, virtue and patience. In that spirit I thank you for your comments and your faith.

]]> By: Takis Korianitis http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-21739 Takis Korianitis Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:13:07 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-21739 David, I would not mind to be schooled. As a matter of fact I am still being schooled. It seems that the history you accept is one of so called "intelectual school", and not of the open mind. I grew up as a Greek Orthodox and I was indulging in all the teachings and traditons of my ancestors. Proud as I could be about my nationality, my religion, and my history. Then I was chalenged by the truth. I had to decide if christianity, after all, was the truth and if so, then which sect? I searched for a good while in all religions including the religion of atheism, and the religion of materialism. Then I made my desicion. I have seen the other side. I have tasted the "food" that it serves. I was there right beside you walking in the darkness of human pride believing anything that any intelctual would serve me, and then..... Oh then I met Jesus! You cannot judge what you do not know. You cannot have an opinion of what you have not tasted. You are still there on the other side all "grown up" by the mind of man that has no answers for the past, the present,or the future. Just because my previous post was painfull to you it does not mean that I have not studied the sciences and still studying. My friend (if you allow me) There is no difference between you and me. I believe that, "In the begining God..." you belive that, "in the begining ....... (fill the blank)". I am a believer and so are you in your own unrevealed past of your existance as a human being. Thank you for responding. I would not mind hearing from you again. There are other sites that discuss the origins of man and of his existance on this earth. If there is any need to discuss further we can communicate. Please use plain English as it is my second language. I pray you understand my spirit and not be offended. I am a Greek and love to debate as all of us here do. David,
I would not mind to be schooled. As a matter of fact I am still being schooled. It seems that the history you accept is one of so called “intelectual school”, and not of the open mind. I grew up as a Greek Orthodox and I was indulging in all the teachings and traditons of my ancestors. Proud as I could be about my nationality, my religion, and my history. Then I was chalenged by the truth. I had to decide if christianity, after all, was the truth and if so, then which sect? I searched for a good while in all religions including the religion of atheism, and the religion of materialism. Then I made my desicion. I have seen the other side. I have tasted the “food” that it serves. I was there right beside you walking in the darkness of human pride believing anything that any intelctual would serve me, and then….. Oh then I met Jesus! You cannot judge what you do not know. You cannot have an opinion of what you have not tasted. You are still there on the other side all “grown up” by the mind of man that has no answers for the past, the present,or the future. Just because my previous post was painfull to you it does not mean that I have not studied the sciences and still studying.
My friend (if you allow me) There is no difference between you and me. I believe that, “In the begining God…” you belive that, “in the begining ……. (fill the blank)”.
I am a believer and so are you in your own unrevealed past of your existance as a human being.
Thank you for responding. I would not mind hearing from you again. There are other sites that discuss the origins of man and of his existance on this earth. If there is any need to discuss further we can communicate. Please use plain English as it is my second language.

I pray you understand my spirit and not be offended. I am a Greek and love to debate as all of us here do.

]]> By: richee http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-21090 richee Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:34:35 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-21090 i don't think that you could be both a Christian and a Muslim at the sane time. you should choose, if your a Christian repent for this heresy and abandoned that Muslim faith/ Christ is the only savior and Mohammedans do not believe that. so in that case how can u be both of the same faith. i pray that God may forgive you as u ask forgiveness to Him and accept Jesus in your life again. i don’t think that you could be both a Christian and a Muslim at the sane time. you should choose, if your a Christian repent for this heresy and abandoned that Muslim faith/ Christ is the only savior and Mohammedans do not believe that. so in that case how can u be both of the same faith.

i pray that God may forgive you as u ask forgiveness to Him and accept Jesus in your life again.

]]> By: David http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-19216 David Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:05:18 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-19216 Takis Korianitis you are a believer and believers require no facts or objective reality as a basis for their assertions. To suggest that Mohammed was a pedophile is one thing but to even say something as childish as "Jesus' truth was spread by his love..." and "Excluded from true Christianity are all the so called churches that persecuted people...blah blah etc" shows that you have no concept or regard for history. I am not here to school you but I will say to others to let you have your say in peace because as a believer your capacity is only believe and not engage in nuanced dialogue. Credible evidence, history, academics or any of the sciences can never sway a believer towards using Gods gift of a good brain. Jesus I pray that you save me from your followers. Selah Takis Korianitis you are a believer and believers require no facts or objective reality as a basis for their assertions. To suggest that Mohammed was a pedophile is one thing but to even say something as childish as “Jesus’ truth was spread by his love…” and “Excluded from true Christianity are all the so called churches that persecuted people…blah blah etc” shows that you have no concept or regard for history. I am not here to school you but I will say to others to let you have your say in peace because as a believer your capacity is only believe and not engage in nuanced dialogue. Credible evidence, history, academics or any of the sciences can never sway a believer towards using Gods gift of a good brain.

Jesus I pray that you save me from your followers.
Selah

]]> By: Takis Korianitis http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-19016 Takis Korianitis Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:15:22 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-19016 As you can understand by reading the above messages the persons involved as "open minded" are, in truth, in total confusion and ignorance of what they say they believe. A few things need to be explained to the common reader and to those that claim both Christian and Muslim Faith. A. The God that has revealed Himself in the Old Testament as Jehovah is not Allah. Allah was the moon god of the Babylonians and that is why the half moon is prominent in all Muslim nations’ flags. B. The God of the Old Testament revealed himself to us in the person of Jesus the Christ. Three times in the gospel of John the Jews take up stones to kill Jesus because he claimed to be God. And finally that was the death sentence based on. It is clear in the Holy Scriptures that Jesus was both a man but also the All mighty God of the universe. Read the 1st chapter of the gospel of John and the 1st chapter of the Colossian epistle. I pray you will understand. C. Mohamed was a confused Catholic who was a pedophile and a blood thirsty tyrant. Mohamed’s religion was spread under the threat of his own sword and shedding of people’s blood. Jesus’ truth was spread by His Love and the shedding of His own precious blood. Excluded from true Christianity are all the so called “churches” that persecuted people to supposedly “teach” them Christ. Just these few truths are enough to make anyone understand that Christianity is the truth revelation of God, and that Mohammedanism is a man made religion that leads people in to hell. Please repent from your unbelief and trust solely on the Lord Jesus Christ to save you. That is why he died on the cross. He paid for our sins. Mohamed cannot offer any forgiveness of sins or salvation. If you are truly seeking answers I am here to help you with a study of revealing the meaning of true Christianity and the true face of Mohammedanism. Pastor Takis Korianitis Zakynthos Bible Baptist Church As you can understand by reading the above messages the persons involved as “open minded” are, in truth, in total confusion and ignorance of what they say they believe. A few things need to be explained to the common reader and to those that claim both Christian and Muslim Faith.

A. The God that has revealed Himself in the Old Testament as Jehovah is not Allah. Allah was the moon god of the Babylonians and that is why the half moon is prominent in all Muslim nations’ flags.

B. The God of the Old Testament revealed himself to us in the person of Jesus the Christ. Three times in the gospel of John the Jews take up stones to kill Jesus because he claimed to be God. And finally that was the death sentence based on. It is clear in the Holy Scriptures that Jesus was both a man but also the All mighty God of the universe. Read the 1st chapter of the gospel of John and the 1st chapter of the Colossian epistle. I pray you will understand.

C. Mohamed was a confused Catholic who was a pedophile and a blood thirsty tyrant. Mohamed’s religion was spread under the threat of his own sword and shedding of people’s blood. Jesus’ truth was spread by His Love and the shedding of His own precious blood. Excluded from true Christianity are all the so called “churches” that persecuted people to supposedly “teach” them Christ.

Just these few truths are enough to make anyone understand that Christianity is the truth revelation of God, and that Mohammedanism is a man made religion that leads people in to hell.

Please repent from your unbelief and trust solely on the Lord Jesus Christ to save you. That is why he died on the cross. He paid for our sins. Mohamed cannot offer any forgiveness of sins or salvation.

If you are truly seeking answers I am here to help you with a study of revealing the meaning of true Christianity and the true face of Mohammedanism.

Pastor Takis Korianitis
Zakynthos Bible Baptist Church

]]> By: Philip Gons http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-15609 Philip Gons Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:02:09 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-15609 Kelly, God has made it clear in His Word that one cannot be a true Christian and a Muslim. I not only can but must tell people the truth. On what basis do you believe that God spoke to Muhammad? Not on the basis of the Bible? If you have some other foundation for your faith, then on what basis do you believe the Christian view of Jesus? You're in a bind from which you cannot extricate yourself. There are no rivals to Jesus, and there are no rivals to God's revelation in the Scriptures. You ask why it is wrong to believe that Muhammad is a tool which God used to speak to us. The answer is quite simple: it's in utter contradiction with the inspired Scriptures. Kelly,

God has made it clear in His Word that one cannot be a true Christian and a Muslim. I not only can but must tell people the truth.

On what basis do you believe that God spoke to Muhammad? Not on the basis of the Bible? If you have some other foundation for your faith, then on what basis do you believe the Christian view of Jesus? You’re in a bind from which you cannot extricate yourself. There are no rivals to Jesus, and there are no rivals to God’s revelation in the Scriptures.

You ask why it is wrong to believe that Muhammad is a tool which God used to speak to us. The answer is quite simple: it’s in utter contradiction with the inspired Scriptures.

]]> By: kelly http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-15172 kelly Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:37:13 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-15172 Phil, don't tell people what they cannot be- only God can do that. I believe in the Fundamentals of Christianity, and I believe in Jesus being God's only son. But I also believed us humans screwed it all up, and God had to speak to Muhammed and redirect people to what is most important, that there is something bigger than all of us, and we need to bow down and never forget, even for one second, that we must be worshippers of God. Jesus is a tool which God used to speak to us, so is Muhammed, why is that wrong? We get all caught up in the interpretations and screaming that we are right, we are forgetting that we are all sinners and we are all wrong, and only God can help us. Sending peace to all people on earth, and praying they find God, the one that really matters. Phil, don’t tell people what they cannot be- only God can do that. I believe in the Fundamentals of Christianity, and I believe in Jesus being God’s only son. But I also believed us humans screwed it all up, and God had to speak to Muhammed and redirect people to what is most important, that there is something bigger than all of us, and we need to bow down and never forget, even for one second, that we must be worshippers of God. Jesus is a tool which God used to speak to us, so is Muhammed, why is that wrong? We get all caught up in the interpretations and screaming that we are right, we are forgetting that we are all sinners and we are all wrong, and only God can help us. Sending peace to all people on earth, and praying they find God, the one that really matters.

]]> By: Phil Gons http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-3073 Phil Gons Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:52:32 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-3073 Simon, Livy, and Ann, None of you can be a Muslim and a Christian. You may like to think that you are both, but you are not. For to be one---<em>properly defined</em>---is precisely not to be the other. Most likely you are <em>neither</em> a Muslim <em>nor</em> a Christian, but rather a syncretist. May God grant you grace to repent of your sin and embrace the true God of the Bible through faith in Jesus Christ alone. Simon, Livy, and Ann,

None of you can be a Muslim and a Christian. You may like to think that you are both, but you are not. For to be one—properly defined—is precisely not to be the other. Most likely you are neither a Muslim nor a Christian, but rather a syncretist. May God grant you grace to repent of your sin and embrace the true God of the Bible through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

]]> By: Simon Barr http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-3045 Simon Barr Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:14:57 +0000 http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/06/18/rev-ann-holmes-redding-christian-and-muslim/#comment-3045 Thank you Livy Merchant. I hope you and Ann read this I too am a moslem and a christian. and I practice both. The differance with Ann is that I grew up as an orthodox moslem shiat, then I let Jesus in to my heart, and I have gained so much that I can not explain. Please please do not let Jesus stop you from opening your heart to Allah his Lord WHAT ARE WE AFFRAID OF In His name Simon Thank you Livy Merchant. I hope you and Ann read this

I too am a moslem and a christian. and I practice both.

The differance with Ann is that I grew up as an orthodox moslem shiat, then I let Jesus in to my heart, and I have gained so much that I can not explain. Please please do not let Jesus stop you from opening your heart to Allah his Lord

WHAT ARE WE AFFRAID OF

In His name
Simon

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